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Did Jesus Make a Veiled Reference to the Nephilim?

Many people believe that Jesus’ reference to the days of Noah where they were “eating… drinking… marrying” (Luke 17:27) was simply a reference ‘life as usual’. Therefore, many people believe that life will be just going on as normal and nothing spectacular is to be expected.  Perhaps there is another way to understand Jesus’ reference to the days of Noah.

When we read of the days before the flood in Genesis 6 we discover that there were fallen angels which had come down and fathered a hybrid race called the Nephilim which is confirmed by 2Pet 2:24 and Jude 1:6 (see Corrupting the Image video  for further consideration, or article here). I believe a clue to the reference  “eating and drinking”  is given in Numbers that the land devours its inhabitants.

“The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. (Num 13:32)

King Og of Bashan needed at least 22,657 calories just to stay alive each and every day. In other words, he was hungry! Extra-biblical texts such as the Book of Giants found among the Dead Sea Scrolls discusses the sons of God and the giants that came from them:

1Q23 Frag. 9 + 14 + 15 

2[ . . . ] they knew the secrets of [ . . . ] 3[ . . . si]n was great in the earth [. . . ] 4[ . . . ] and they killed many [ . . ] 5[ . . . they begat] giants [ . . . ] (emphasis mine).

1Q23 Frag. 1 + 6 

[. . . two hundred] 2donkeys, two hundred asses, two hundred . . . rams of the] 3flock, two hundred goats, two hundred [. . . beast of the] 4field from every animal, from every [bird . . .] 5[. . .] for miscegenation [. . .]
4Q531 Frag.
2 [ . . . ] they defiled [ . . . ] 2[ . . . they begot] giants and monsters [ . . . ] 3[ . . . ] they begot, and, behold, all [the earth was corrupted . . . ] 4[ . . . ] with its blood and by the hand of [ . . . ] 5[giant’s] which did not suffice for them and [ . . . ] 6[ . . . ] and they were seeking to devour many [ . . . ] 7[ . . . ] 8[ . . . ] the monsters attacked it, (emphasis mine).
4Q532 Col. 2 Frags. 1 – 6 
2[ . . . ] flesh [ . . . ] 3al[l . . . ] monsters [ . . . ] will be [ . . . ] 4[ . . . ] they would arise [ . . . ] lacking in true knowledge [ . . . ] because [ . . . ] 5[ . . . ] the earth [grew corrupt . . . ] mighty [ . . . ] 6[ . . . ] they were considering [ . . . ] 7[ . . . ] from the angels upon [ . . . ] 8[ . . . ] in the end it will perish and die [ . . . ] 9[ . . . ] they caused great corruption in the [earth . . .] (emphasis mine).

I suggest that Jesus’ reference to eating and drinking was not simply people having their daily needs, but was a reference to the activity of the Nephilim eating animals and humans – anything with blood in those days.  Everything had become genetically corrupted  (mixing of different kinds). The reference to marriage and given in marriage appears to be a veiled reference to the sons of God

They Were Marrying and Being Given in Marriage

taking the daughters of Adam as wives. I doubt that these marriages were out of “love” but were done in order to procreate the Nephilim. Both 2Pet 2:24 and Jude 1:6 confirm that the sons of God were fallen angels who came and performed “sexual immorality”.

Jesus’ words concerning the days of Noah have to be considered in conjunction with what he/God already revealed in other portions of his Word (Genesis 6). Thus, “eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage” should not be considered life as usual, but the activity of the Nephilim on the earth in those days.

 

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  1. the meaning of “as in the days of Noah” is this: no one knows the day and the hour. Just like in the days of Noah no one had a clue the flood is 10 seconds away,…

    Christ is the ark, christians ar Noah. The world,. is just as in the days of Noah.

  2. marrying and given in marriage could also be a reference to homosexual activity. Generally speaking the bible is of a male’s point of view/reference, saying marrying would imply a man marrying a women, saying given in marriage would imply a man being given to another man for marriage. I wish I could find the article that I read which explained this in greater detail.

  3. No hybrids sorry, just demonic influence and direction to DNA manipulations, the technology we have today is nothing compared to what secrets are being kept from us.

  4. no, its clear that its was demonic influencing, that’s what’s going on today. The imagination ” inside ” was continually evil.

    Gen_6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually

  5. Is it my imagination or are there not pictures of giant skulls and skeletal bones on the internet? From what I understand every time these remains are dug up they are intercepted by some group, but there have
    been individuals around the world that claim giant remains.

    Its funny how we have dinosaur remains to prove evolution and the age of the earth being older than the biblical 6000 years, however no giant bones to prove the bibles authenticity about Nephilims.

    Even if God locked up the fallen angels, man can still use the DNA information from these Giant remains along with whatever they discovered in the Egyptian digs for cloning and/or DNA manipulation

    A wise king did once say – “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done
    is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”

    The bible teaches us that we fight not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual darkness. Darkness is exactly what it is – DARK, UGLY and SCARY

    I firmly believe that there is already evil in the works and walking among us today. “Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming ON the earth:”

    I have always thought of our bodies as spacesuits for our spirits to live on this earth.

    Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    I think these dark demonic spirits are trying to help man create a way for them to walk among us using our DNA somehow. Then using women as birthing chambers.

    Sounds far fetched, but could be close. Then again, you have people who would rather believe there are aliens that created us and are coming back. Anything to not believe in the ONE TRUE GOD.

  6. Anyone doing serious research recognizes that the advanced cloning,”scientific” research today and in black budgets(leaked by many)DNA,GMO crops,genetic contamination,UFO abduction( where sperm and ova are taken repeatedly by these” shape shifting” creatures gives more than hints at Satans ingenuity at deceiving the large majority of the human race! AND don’ t forget that it says ” if it were possible the very elect will be deceived ” during the time of the antichrist…..! This is all happening under peoples noses,covertly and actually openly! No wonder Jesus said “he who has ears to hear and eyes to see…!” The Holy Spirit will show those who ask him! Wake up people …..this 70 th generation is NOW that Enoch predicted when they would return!
    Thank God we have the blessed hope!

  7. I am going to play “devil’s advocate” at bit here. It seems to me that you can’t look at Luke 17:27 without also looking at Luke 17:28 since the word “likewise” connects them. Luke 17:28 references the activities of Lot and Sodom prior just prior to it’s demise. Lot/Sodom would be some 300 years after the flood so, to me anyway, reference to the Nephilim doesn’t seem very plausible. For what it’s worth, I have no credentials. But, I am a serious Bible student. Thanks.

    • Actually the reference to Lot strengthens the fallen angel interpretation.

      • How so? Not a challenge – just don’t understand how.

        • I am just guessing, but I think a clue might be found in Jude 1:7. There, it describes one of the sins of the inhabitants of Sodom (and elsewhere) as “going after strange flesh”. This might be a reference to angelic/human hybridization, but I am really not sure. It is a curious term and in that verse it appears to be something different than just fornication, whereas that is mentioned separately. I really am just speculating though. One of the last, if not the last, corporate sins of Sodom was the menfolk trying to “know” those two angels. So..hmmm…I dunno. Intriguing.

          • Of course, in that case it was rebellious men seeking angels that were faithful to God so there seems to be a reversal there…but yeah…hmmm.

          • I do find the subject interesting but largely inconsequential. That’s what makes the conversation so fun – no matter where you stand on the issue there is no eternal consequence! Two areas of the fallen angel theory I have trouble getting past are 1) In Gen. 6 all other references are to man – he would not always strive with man, the years of a man would be 120, the thoughts of man were only evil continually. As an aside, in the NT shouldn’t there be some warning re:fallen angels in the last days (something like, “Watch out ladies, fallen angels will become flesh ((this presumes incarnation which is a problem in and of itself)) so don’t have sex with them!”) and 2) Biology. I understand that DNA manipulation is going on and was quite possibly was going on pre-flood. However, the idea of some hybrid fallen-angel/human race makes very little logical sense to me. If fallen angels can, in fact, become flesh it seems outside the order of all creation that they could reproduce with human beings by natural sexual intercourse as they are two are completely different species (and I don’t know if angels are even a species). For argument sake, if you follow the logic that fallen-angels and humans can create a hybrid race you would have to allow for the possibility of a monkey/horse or pig/dog if the two different species had sex. It seems ridiculous. As for the angels and the men of Sodom? What possible purpose would there be in homosexual sex between humans and angels – fallen or otherwise? Same sex unions produce nothing. Ever.

          • Are you aware that every ante-Nicene commentator, both Jewish and Christian, believed that the sons of God were fallen angels that came down? It is scary that today scientists are already making hybrid creatures like glow in the dark pigs and spider goats. In 2011 the UK make 150 human-animal hybrids. I have all of that stuff on my site.

          • I was aware the the majority of ante-Nicene theologians believed this. Interesting. As a layperson I am finding the reading on “both sides” of the issue to be fascinating largely because both views have respectable, God-fearing, Bible scholars who brilliantly present their positions. At this time, I am undecided but lean toward the line of Seth view (which I understand can be argued against) as it makes the most sense to me. Doug, you are so right the hybrid ‘creations’ of scientists today is scary and, in my humble opinion, fits well with the worship of the creation rather than the creator.

            In doing my homework I found this quote:

            “Interpretations and Assumptions. It is undeniably true that there is a correct interpretation of every passage, even if we don’t know yet what it is. It is also true that assumptions affect our interpretations. Assumptions are not always negative, however; sometimes they are necessary for correct interpretation. As interpreters who desire to rightly divide the Word of truth, we must always be considering and reconsidering our interpretations in order to expose and examine any assumptions that are influencing them.”

            — Thomas A. Howe

            As I continue to study the Word, pray and reason together with others, may I be one who always considers and reconsiders my interpretations. (That reconsidering is largely the reason I now think of myself a recovering Calvinist :-).

          • “In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity” – Augustine or Rupertus Meldenius I completely agree that it is a non-essential and therefor pretty safe and fun territory to speculate and debate. I must confess though that I fall pretty much on the side of the fallen angel/women side of things. This for the most part is due to the Hebrew word for “Son’s of God” being I think exclusively a reference for angels in the OT and it being the most widely accepted interpretation originally as has already been brought up. I don’t see very much why the offspring of believers and nonbelievers would be giants or the “men of renown” that they are described as, but I haven’t looked up the answers from the “Son’s of Seth” side.

            The other thing that gets me though has to do with how well it ties in with and explains what we see happening today in both the entertainment industry and the new age movement…the whole “Alien Agenda” thing. I don’t see anywhere in the Bible it being mentioned that God created other beings on other planets that are well more advanced than us enough to have mastered deep space flight. However, it is quite apparent that angelic beings would most closely answer this as they are beings from a different realm or “dimension” and are definitely described as being more advanced than we currently are in our present state. I am typically inclined to think (given the consistent message received by new age “channelers” who claim to be in psychic contact with aliens and the message of E.T.’s from other planets being pushed in the media) that the end times may play out with some sort of alien deception where fallen angels would be masquerading as E.T’s. Now, this obviously doesn’t have to be the substance of the Great Deception, but I think it makes a lot of sense given what we see taking shape.

            The video that is linked I think somewhere on this site is pretty good. It is the “Age of Deceit: Fallen Angels and the New World Order” video. That is where I first got introduced to Doug here. I have since been a listener to his podcast and am very impressed with it. Mainly I would say because him and his often times co-host discuss so many topics and they don’t always agree on them and yet they have a very healthy and respectable way of listening to each other and allowing each viewpoint to be presented.

            Sorry…I am rambling a bit now. But yeah…great stuff…important, yes…essential, no…intriguing, without a doubt.

          • I hope I have been respectful here. If I’ve come across otherwise I apologize. I listen to Doug’s podcast also and am certainly not against him in any way – quite the opposite, actually. He always makes me think. I wish I had the desire to really dig into the Word when I was younger. Although I’ve been saved since I was 6 it’s only been the last 10 years or so that I’ve been a serious Bible student – and I am almost 50. So I am greatful for Doug and his ministry.

          • Not only that, but angels are not given in marriage, according to Jesus, so even though appear as male, would not have reproductive abilities at all.

  8. What if he was referring to actually eating and drinking the blood of us humans and marrying/procreating with all that they choose ? A literal Nephilim interpretation.

  9. proclaimingGodsTruth

    I think you are reading too much into these passages. The angels that caused the Nephilim were locked up for leaving their own estate – Jude 1:6. And God locked up the angels who sinned – 2 Pet 2:4.

    So for the Nephilim to return as in the days of Noah before the flood I believe is teaching ‘sensational’ Bible Prophecy. It sells books but doesn’t portray the real truth. Let’s stick to rightly driving the word of truth – 2 Tim 2:15 and keep our hermeneutics in eschatology confined to the Bible.

    1st rule of interpretation – ““If the Plain Text Makes Perfect Sense, Seek No Other Sense, Otherwise You Will End Up With Nonsense!”

    • Armageddon Thru To You

      and what are YOUR credentials on this subject?

    • Please notice that in each verse you mention, that the angels are held for a time – it is a temporary condition until the time of judgement. If Doug’s interpretation is correct (as I believe it is) then what we may be experiencing is the release of these angels for that judgement.

      • proclaimingGodsTruth

        Hi Mark – please let’s examine what the actual KJV of scripture says: in Jude – “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.”

        In 2 Peter -” For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;”

        Now it does state that the angels that did not do their what they were created to do are being reserved into everlasting chains unto the JUDGMENT of the great day. Judgment again is stated in 2 Peter. This judgment is will be after the 1000 year reign of Christ.

        I think that we need to read this in the exact way it represents it. Those angels will not be released until the judgment. No ‘temporary’ condition is stated or implied.

        My thought is that some people misrepresent this to promote sensationalism for the purpose of personal gain … IOW …money. No where in scripture does it state that the Days of Noah will be as in Gen 6:4 with the return of the giants or Nephilim. I have heard the author above state that it does and Prophecy in the News guys say the same things. I am sorry but this is not scriptural. I know they get ‘additional’ information from supplemental non-canonized books but that is only (repeat – only) speculative.

        Let’s sharper our Biblical hermeneutics so as to give solid scripture evidence that these giants will again return and then we can discuss further. It is an error to build an eschatology doctrine around misinterpreted verse/s. Therefore, the Nephilim will not return.

        • Hi, the judgment stated in 2Pet is not after the 1000 years. First of all, 2Pet 3:10 – “the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night IN WHICH THE HEAVENS WILL PASS AWAY…” That means that the new heavens and new earth will take place at the beginning of the millennium and not after as is commonly thought. The next thing to consider is just what was happening in the days of Noah – there were Nephilim – it is not at all sensationalist to say that what happened before is going to happen again. The fundamental reason for the flood was the Nephilim on the earth. Thus if God destroyed the world because of Nephilim the first time it would only make sense that he would destroy it the second time for the same reason. There are lots of other reasons which I discuss in the book which is available on this site to read.

          • proclaimingGodsTruth

            Too much speculation Doug. The Lord qualified why He mentioned in the Days of Noah – eating, drinking and marrying. IOW, they were not prepared nor did they care – same as today. No giants, no Nephilim – the angels that made that happen are locked up. Can you not see this? If not, give me concrete scripture stating otherwise. There is absolutely no evidence today that these Nephilim will again return to earth.

            There are many thoughts on what exactly is the Day of the Lord and when it will occur. I don’t think scripture has an answer for us – it may in fact represent multiple events at different times. The Day of the Lord is mentioned in the major and minor prophets and some places in the NT. You can’t put a date and time or event on it.

          • ProclaimingGodsTruth , i see your errors, and pointing the finger at Doug, it the kettle calling the pot black. Too much speculation proclaimingGodsTruth

          • proclaimingGodsTruth

            Huh?
            The angels that caused the Nephilim are locked up and will not cause these same things to occur again.
            God is in control and man is not.

          • Douglas, please friend me on facebook, i will show you, in scripture – with Video and Picture Proof – you’re are the one – that can show everyone else

  10. Awesome revelation

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