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Has God Said to Not Pray for America?

We are told in in I Thessalonians to “pray without ceasing” yet there are times when we are to cease from praying for certain people under certain circumstances. Three times in the book of Jeremiah God told Jeremiah to not pray for the people:

  • Therefore do not pray for this people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them, nor make intercession to Me; for I will not hear you. (Jeremiah 7:16)
  • So do not pray for this people, or lift up a cry or prayer for them; for I will not hear them in the time that they cry out to Me because of their trouble. (Jeremiah 11:14)
  • Then the LORD said to me, “Do not pray for this people, for their good. (Jeremiah 14:11)

We might think that this was awfully cruel on God’s part – after all, what if they had wanted to repent? However, when we consider what they were doing then things come into focus:

Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? (Jeremiah 7:17)
The children gather wood, the fathers kindle fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven. And they pour out drink offerings to other gods, to provoke me to anger. (Jeremiah 7:18)

Ancient Abortion - Burning Image of Molech with baby

Lest we think that God destroyed them for merely making some cakes…and because the God of Israel is some kind of I-am-insecure-in-my-godhood kind of God consider the atrocities that they were doing in relation to this queen of heaven and the other gods that they were worshiping:

 

And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into my mind. (Jeremiah 7:31)

Because the people have forsaken me and have profaned this place by making offerings in it to other gods whom neither they nor their fathers nor the kings of Judah have known; and because they have filled this place with the blood of innocents, and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, which I did not command or decree, nor did it come into my mind- (Jeremiah 19:4, 5)

God was patient with Judah giving them time to repent of their actions. He sent them prophets telling them to change their ways. Though there were brief moments of repentance, the nation continued in its rebellion and thirst for blood.

So, if that is what God did with His own people Israel, whom He had chosen to be the recipients of the Oracles of God, then what should we expect here in America where we have aborted millions and millions of babies? Do we really think that God is just going to pass us by? The question I wrestle with is how should I pray for America? When I see all of the disasters happening how should I pray? Can I really pray for mercy when we kill our own young in the womb! In the ancient world unwanted babies were given to false gods to be burned, something, we tell ourselves that we would never do. And yet, are we not

Baby at eight weeks

committing an even worse atrocity? We have gone far beyond what the ancients were doing …we have mastered the practice by making it respectable, and “about choice” – it has become convenient. Still, there is a precious life in the womb made in God’s image. We don’t burn the baby outside of the womb in the burning hot arms of Molech while the drums are beating but in the tranquility of a nice sterile operating room with a nurse telling the woman that it is OK because it is her body and she has the right to choose – all the while the baby

Baby Aborted in Second Trimester

inside her is being either sucked apart, pulled apart of burned with a saline solution! God cares about the preborn and to date there have been over 50 million according to Answers.com! “Abortion statistics are never specific, as the procedure is protected under the right to privacy laws. However, it has been estimated that 3,000 are done daily. If you multiply that by the number of years that aborion has been legal, you get a large number. If you’re curious, I guess you could multiply 3,000 x (years abortions has been legal) x 365 (to show the daysin those years) + 3,000 x a few days (for Leap Days).  If you’re not satisfied with this answer (I’m not), check this out. The Alan Gutmacher Institute, a leading proponent of abortion on demand, claims that there have been more than 50 million abortions in the U.S. since Roe Vs. Wade.”

So, the question remains: what is God going to do about America? Is our former righteousness sufficient? I think not. Even Israel and Judah’s elect status was not enough to save them from judgment. I believe that America will be judged in the very near future and it has perhaps already begun. People may still repent and be saved but I believe that the age of God’s blessing in America is at an end. If we look back to the days of Jeremiah, we might say that the Babylonians have already begun marching and will be here soon. Now is the time to get right with your creator.

 

 

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20 comments

  1. I guess the date on this article was July 2011? I don’t see a date on this page, but the link I clicked to get here puts it then.

    I’d never heard of Douglas Hamp until last Wednesday, 11/05/14, and now I am trying to figure out the timing for when the Holy Spirit prompted my spirit—not to stop praying for America—but to change the dynamic of how I’d pray for America. By 2012, and throughout 2013, I was praying that corruption be exposed.

    The prodigious number of scandals breaking across all three branches of government would indicate that the Holy Spirit was prompting many others to pray along the same line. But corresponding indictments and prosecution has too often been slow, nonexistent, or tampered with. When I asked why, the answer I got was that the Lord God is testing many people in government to see who will stand.

    Now, in 2014, I sense another shift. It’s time to snatch those whom we can from the fire (cf. Jude 1:23), and pray that disparagement not overtake us this close to the finish line.

  2. I would point out that this article teaches that God, indeed, sovereignly elects who is saved and who is not. God has always had a group of chosen people (both Jew and gentile) whom He called to salvation from the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4, Mt. 25:34)
    “But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.” 2 Thes.2:13-14

    • Hi Rascal Jones. I have to disagree with you – God hasn’t elected any one to salvation. He elected the Jews to come to the wedding feast and it is up to them to show up. I have written an article http://www.douglashamp.com/why-god-did-not-elect-calvinists-the-biblical-concept-of-election-never-means-predestined-to-salvation-and-commonly-is-a-reference-to-israel/ which I am electing you to read. It is now up to you to accept your election.

      • Hi Douglas, So what do you do with a scripture like Romans 8:28-30? ” And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.”

        Who is the cause? God. Who does the calling? God. According to whose purpose? God’s. Who does He call? Those whom He foreknew (from the foundation of the world– see Eph. 1:4). What did He predestine them for? Justification (aka salvation) and glorification (conformity to the risen Christ). Those whom He predestined, He called, justified and will glorify.

        That’s pretty clear, isn’t it? This is predestined election to salvation. Did you have any free will contribution to God’s choices before the world began? I dare say it is impossible to think you did anything before you were born. Even if you will not agree, surely you can admit we have reasonable biblical grounds for this belief.

        Why do so many Christians kick against the idea of the sovereignty of the Almighty, omnipotent God? Why is the emphasis always on our corrupt and fallen “free will” instead of on God’s perfect free will? Why must Christians insist that they contribute to their own salvation?

        Why do Christians focus on the Jewish people who remain largely in rebellion against our Lord (though a future repentance is anticipated) while we ignore clear scriptures that emphatically state that “Israel” consists of the children of faith rather than genetics? Gal. 3:7, Rom. 4:16.

        “In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.” Rom. 9:8. “For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” verse 6

        Continue in verses 14 to 18, “What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses,“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
        and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
        It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.”

        In Romans 9 we see God’s sovereign election clearly explained. None of it is by human desire (will) or effort. We also see God rejecting rebellious national Israel and choosing gentiles who become Abraham’s “children” by faith.

        The church is the New Covenant Israel of God. The promises belong to the elect who believe by faith. The New Jerusalem is the Bride of Christ– the church (Rev. 21:2). The sabbath is our salvation in Christ in whom we rest. If you do not see these things, you are still looking at the shadows and not the things to which they point.

  3. I Also Pray every night for this America. I am aware of the time when  Manasseh was king of Israel he had shed
    so much innocent blood that God said he could forgive the land. Then to add to our sin we justified homosexuality
    to our nation. The two predominate sins that brought about complete destruction twice in God word. Then we
    are slowly turning our backs to Israel.
    May God have mercy on us.

  4. Truthspeaksolisten

    America WILL be judged, as will all mankind. But that does NOT mean deny ANYONE of your prayer or compassion. Jesus said in MT 9:12 “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.”God intends us to offer more of ourselves to those who are more in need. As He offered ALL of Himself when we, indeed, were lost in our own sins and transgressions. 

  5. Truthspeaksolisten

    JER. 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you. This shows that we are existent and God knows us even before we are fabricated in the womb of our mother, let alone at the point of conception.It is not this  world that offers “life” to anyone, it is indeed God, the Author of Life, that does that. All should respect that for what it is, God makes NO secret of what this means to Him, or what the consequences are for all who deny God’s Love and kill His own….   

  6. Carol_dickinson

    Hey everybody… if you feel lead by the Holy Spirit… start whistling or singing Christian hymns in the market place where ever you go. As you are shopping rolling your cart around the store… or walking in the mall… just praise God.  We Christians have been put in a bottle for far to long.  I was in Target today… and after I was finished whistling and singing (not to loud off course) someone told me… you sing like an angel.   People are hungry to witness and also to be bold (not just loving) but bold and unashamed of Christ… where ever we go.  Hey… lets start a holy trend my friend… my brother and sister in Christ 🙂

  7. I pray that someone will step forward to help that mom-to-be find a safe place to live and be given appropriate care while pregnant, a safe place to deliver her child and remove the despair from her heart. Most girls and women are experiencing extreme despair; that is why they chose abortion. They can’t see any future for their child; just abject poverty. And all this while wealthy Christians spend extravagantly on another home, bauble, diamond cross, expensive vacations. Wake UP. Jesus said people would come to Him expounding all that they had done for him. He will say “Get away from me, I never knew you”. Adopt an alcoholic or drug addict that wants to change but has no hope.
    I lived that despair but I now bathe in Christ’s mercy, love and peace.

    • In the last five years, every time I tried to help someone with a drug problem, I became the bad guy and they only used and abused.
      The sad fact is that only about 10% of alcoholics and drug abusers ever stay sober.
      Denial, self pity, self, self ,self.
      A good start would be service to others.
      Join a 12 step group or better yet a church and volunteer, be of service.
      Put some distance between you and your last drink, one day at a time.
      Pray without ceasing.

  8. Alexander Backman

    Agreed. This is not our World but the Enemy’s. Jesus said it clearly in John. Our Identity is with A New Humanity and a New Earth.

    In daily repentance and waiting for His Return,

    Alexander Backman
    http://www.alexanderbackman.com

  9. Please point to exactly what benefit(s) that another 2 or 3 billion people will be.  Abortion is detestable, but there are other things to be considered.  And they all suck.

    • Last time I checked, we were undergoing a major financial crisis in this country due to a large population retiring and collecting their SSI checks, whilst the generations behind them are not sufficiently numerous to keep funding this Ponzi scheme. Seems to me that 50 million more babies in the U.S. paying into social security would’ve put a dent in that number.

      And it looks like Europe is undergoing something very similar, with negative population growth all around the West. Future generations are just that- our future. Killing them off in the name of convenience and so-called “sexual liberation” does nothing but harm us.

    • Why are you worrying about this Earth?

      2Pe 3:10  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
      2Pe 3:11  Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
      2Pe 3:12  Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
      2Pe 3:13  Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

  10. I agree. You can not join what is Holy with  that which is of this world. As a Christian, I live in America.  I am thankful and obey it’s laws. But, my home is with the Lord. My Country is the New Jerusalem that is currently in Heaven.

    Judgement is coming to America, and so called Christian activism, patriotism, and unholy prayer, is not going to stop it.  The Lord is about to burn the fence that American Christians have been sitting on for years.

    Fellow Christians, look up, and get your eyes off the earthly flesh.

  11. Amen! I struggle myself with the same issue, or did. 

    The Lord gave me a message a while back, as I had been praying for America. He told me not to pray for my country, and to stop having pride for a place that had blatantly turned it’s back on God. 

    So, I no longer pray for this country. I pray for His people in it, and that we are spared from His judgement. And that others will open their eyes. I pray that we will not be forsaken, because of what this country does..and does not do. That’s the only way I know to do it, or the way God showed me to. 

    I do feel blessed to be here, rather than other nations that put Christians to death. But, anything good this country is, does, or is given..is only because of Him. That was the lesson He gave me. 

    My allegiance therefore is no longer to my country, but to the Lord that created it. 

     

    • Hello,

         Sorry I think I clicked the wrong button there. I thought I clicked LIKE… and not Liked. I think I corrected it. Sorry.  Anyway… I really LIKE what you said. Thank you… you have encouraged me… and helped me to see the bigger picture. Yes… the Lord is my God… and not this sin filled USA … and heaven is my real home. Halleluia! Thank you Lord!  Increasingly… everyday… I see more and more wickedness pop up in America in different ways.  I truly no longer have a desire to pray for America.  It saddens me… but now I know why… Most People here refuse and refuse BOLDLY to repent of their sins… (mainly the sin of abortion.. though any sin will get a soul into heaven if unrepented of) and because of this bold unashamed love of sin… I can no longer stand watching TV… visit even lukewarm Christians anymore… for they are proud of their own accomplisments… and have truly forgotten God… and that He is the reason America is blessed… but not for long. 🙁    God is giving time to those whose eyes and ears are open… to get ready… to prepare ourselves and keep our oil lamps full.  Saints don’t get caught up in the world… you have held on this long with God’s help. Please don’t give up.  We have just a little bit longer… just a little. “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens us.” Remember that my dear brother or sister.   I find my self weeping for the lost… and there are soooooooooooo many. “Few” find the narrow road that leads to heaven. “Few”… that is the saddest word to me…  in the whole Bible.   I will still pray… but I will try to pray… as the Holy Spirit leads me to pray for. For I believe some where in the New Testiment it says something like… to pray with the Holy Spirit.    Much Love to you my dear sisters and brothers in Jesus Christ / Yeshua HaMessiah.Carol 

      • Oops… I meant to say “any sin will get a soul into hell if unrepented for.” not “into heaven”.  

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