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Part Five: The Coming of the Watchers in the Days of Noah

Part Five: The Coming of the Watchers in the Days of Noah

We have explored half of the promise given so many years ago – that “he” that is the Messiah-Jesus, would bruise the serpent’s head. Jesus came in the flesh from Heaven by way of the Holy Spirit who mixed with the seed of woman. If this was true of “her seed,” then according the hermeneutical consistency, the seed of the serpent ought to be interpreted in like manner. What this means is that since Jesus (in his bodily incarnation) was a genetic mix between the heavenly (Holy Spirit) and earthly (Mary), the same ought to be for the other part of the verse and therefore true of Satan’s seed; that is to say that he (and his angels) would mix his (genetic) seed (gametes) with a human thereby creating a hybrid between the demonic and human. The Bible calls this kind of progeny Nephilim – that is, fallen ones. We will explore in detail in this section just what happened in the days of Noah and in part 3 what is happening now and how events will culminate at the time of Jesus’ coming.

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Jesus gave his disciples an important key to understanding what the last days would be like – they would be like the sudden destruction that came upon the earth in the days of Noah.

But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be, (Matthew 24:37-39).
What happened in the days of Noah has a direct correlation as to what we ought to expect in the last days. The inhabitants of the earth had been warned repeatedly by Noah, the preacher of righteousness, but they failed to listen. Peter, under the direction of the Holy Spirit, makes this revelation concerning the days of Noah and the destruction that came: “the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water,” (1 Peter 3:20). In his second epistle Peter writes:

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell[tartarosas ταρταρώσας the underworld prison]  and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly, (2 Peter 2:4-5).

Jesus and Peter are telling us more than just the swiftness of the destruction that came upon the earth. Their words give us clues to the condition of the world at that time. We must not miss that the first century Jew, without any apparent exception, believed that in the days of Noah, demons (sons of God) came down to earth and had relations with women spawning a race of demonic-human hybrids (the proof will be given in the following chapters).

Thus, to fully understand Jesus’ statement “as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be,” we must first understand what life was like in Noah’s days. If we fail to understand what this passage means, we will not only miss some very significant historical issues but also our view of the end times will be lacking as well. First of all, let’s analyze the text and build our comprehension one level at a time.

When humankind began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, the sons of God [benei haelohim בְנֵי־הָאֱלֹהִים] saw that the daughters of humankind [banot haadam הָאָדָם בְּנוֹת] were beautiful. Thus they took wives for themselves from any they chose. So the LORD said, “My spirit will not remain in humankind indefinitely, since they are mortal. They will remain for 120 more years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days (and also after this) when the sons of God were having sexual relations with the daughters of humankind, who gave birth to their children. They were the mighty heroes of old, the famous men. But the LORD saw that the wickedness of humankind had become great on the earth. Every inclination of the thoughts of their minds was only evil all the time. The LORD regretted that he had made humankind on the earth, and he was highly offended. So the LORD said, “I will wipe humankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth – everything from humankind to animals, including creatures that move on the ground and birds of the air, for I regret that I have made them,” (Genesis 6:1-7 NET).

At the time of Noah (and the subsequent judgment), the population of the earth grew dramatically. The text says that men (adam – this is a general Hebrew expression for men in general, who are of course, sons of Adam in a literal sense) increased in numbers; there were conceivably over ten billion people [i] at the time! As a natural consequence, daughters were born to the race in general but then another group took notice of these female humans, namely, the sons of God. The sons of God took them and fathered offspring known as Nephilim. To understand what was happening then we need to clearly identify the sons of God.

The Sons of God

The phrase the “sons of God” appears ten times in the Bible (NKJV), twice in Genesis six, three times in the book of Job and five times in the New Testament (which we already examined). In Hebrew this phrase benei haelohim (בְּנֵ֣י הָאֱלֹהִ֔ים) appears four times while benei elohim (אֱלֹהִֽים בְּנֵ֥י) appears once in Job 38:7 – the only variation is the definite article. God responds to Job’s request to show up and explain the meaning of the tremendous suffering that Job has just endured (chapter 38:7) by asking where he was in the beginning: “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” (Job 38:7).

God makes reference to the fact that Job was not there when He laid the foundation of the earth and the implication is that no human was there for that matter. Therefore we see from the usage here that “sons of God” refers to angels. This is backed by the Septuagint which translates all three of the Job passages as “angels” instead of the Hebrew sons of God – evidently the Jews who translated Job into Greek from Hebrew felt that sons of God were angels and not humans. [ii] The NET Bible commentary confirms this understanding: “In the Book of Job the phrase clearly refers to angelic beings,” (NET Bible Commentary Genesis 6:2). In the beginning of the book of Job we read:

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. And the LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.” (Job 1:6-7)

Again, we note that the Septuagint has translated “sons of God” as “the angels of God” (oi angeloi tou theou οι αγγελοι του θεου). To the ancient Jew at least, this phrase was clearly talking about angelic beings. The fact that Satan appeared among their number would suggest that these “sons of God” are fallen angels. After all, from what we read concerning angels in both the Old Testament: (Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, etc.) and New Testament (especially Revelation), angels (that is the good ones) already have access to the presence of God. Thus, to state that one day they came before the Lord, would seem a bit odd unless it referred to demons. We should also remember that the term (malakh מַלְאַ֧ךְ) in Hebrew and (angelos αγγελος) in Greek both generally mean “messenger.” The messenger can be either good or bad and can be earthly (a man) or heavenly (an angelic being). Jesus at the judgment of the nations ” will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels [tois angelois τοις αγγελοις],’ (Matthew 25:41). If the devil has angels and they are cast into the lake of fire, then they cannot be good angels. Thus they are fallen angels also known as demons.

From the references in Job, and how the term is translated in both the Septuagint and Targumim, we conclude that the term “sons of God” is referring to angelic beings (good or bad). The fact that Satan appeared with the sons of God and the fact that Jesus refers to the devil and his angels, leads us to further conclude that the reference in Genesis chapter six is talking about fallen angels (demons).

The New English Translation (NET Bible) commentary discusses the three different positions commonly held and emphasizes that the “angel” interpretation is favorable over the others.

There are three major interpretations of the phrase here. (1) In the Book of Job the phrase clearly refers to angelic beings. In Genesis 6 the “sons of God” are distinct from “humankind,” suggesting they were not human. This is consistent with the use of the phrase in Job. Since the passage speaks of these beings cohabiting with women, they must have taken physical form or possessed the bodies of men. An early Jewish tradition preserved in 1 En. 6-7 elaborates on this angelic revolt and even names the ringleaders. (2) Not all scholars accept the angelic interpretation of the “sons of God,” however. Some argue that the “sons of God” were members of Seth’s line, traced back to God through Adam in Gen 5, while the “daughters of humankind” were descendants of Cain. But, as noted above, the text distinguishes the “sons of God” from humankind (which would include the Sethites as well as the Cainites) and suggests that the “daughters of humankind” are human women in general, not just Cainites. (3) Others identify the “sons of God” as powerful tyrants, perhaps demon-possessed, who viewed themselves as divine and, following the example of Lamech (see Gen 4:19), practiced polygamy. But usage of the phrase “sons of God” in Job militates against this view, (NET Notes Genesis 6:2, emphasis mine).

Neither Marry nor Are Given in Marriage

To some people, fallen angels having the ability to take physical form and procreate would seem to create a contradiction in Scripture. In Matthew 22:30 we read: “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.” This would seem to say that angels are not capable of having offspring and if that is the case, then Genesis 6 could certainly not be referring to fallen angels having some type of sexual relations with women. The parallel passage in Luke sheds more light on the text and seems to be a fuller rendering of what Jesus said on the subject whereas the Matthean and Markan accounts are abbreviated. In Luke we read:

but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection,” (Luke 20:35-36).

Notice that Jesus says that those who attain that age and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage “for they cannot die anymore.” The thrust of the passage is not the potential of sexual ability in heaven! Remember, the Sadducees, who denied the resurrection, were trying to pull a fast one on Jesus by asking whose wife [m1] the woman (having seven husbands) would be in heaven. The question and answer had nothing to do with the ability to pass on seed but rather to the fact that there is a resurrection of the dead; the new order is different than the here and now. God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful (that is to have sexual relations) and fill the earth. From Jesus’ words we see that there will be no need for any more procreation (to fill the earth) “for they cannot die anymore.” However, this verse cannot be used to prove that angelic beings lacked the ability to mingle their seed with the daughters of men. It would seem that they were merely forbidden to do so (as we will see from 2 Peter and Jude as well as extra-biblical sources).

Conclusion

We saw earlier that the term “sons of God” refers to angels and humans who are direct creations of God. Angels are all by definition sons of God since they do not have parents but were produced directly by God. We therefore conclude that the sons of God in Genesis 6 were in fact angels who had relations with the daughters of Adam. The text in Genesis 6 doesn’t say if they were good or bad angels but based on the flood that followed it is safe to assume that they were fallen angels.

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  1. I also note some differences between angels and demons in the bible. Angels can materialize, battle, sin and they are messengers. Demons seem to have very little power except to possess people when given entry, they recognize Christ and knew their destinies. I am still have trouble seeing them as the same entities. What do you think?

    • HI Curtis,
      I agree that we have lots of evidence of angels materializing and in so far as we can tell, demons are not able to do that – at least not without a cost. I would suggest that when and if demons (fallen angels) materialize they must abandon their proper domain and habitation as Jude speaks of. Thus, there is a tremendous cost associated with taking on a humanish body – they will get cast into Tartarus eventually and they don’t want to go there. I did publish a new chapter The Nature of the Spiritual Dimension http://www.douglashamp.com/the-nature-of-the-spiritual-dimension/
      Check it out.

      Take care!

  2. False teachings down through the ages: (Part II)

    A. The “Jews” are a “Race of people” with their own “Religion” (True/False?)

    False:

    Let’s address..”What is a Jew?”

    Many different views and opinions have circulated throughout the centuries as to exactly who were the Jews, where did they come from and who were their ancestors. In the secular world they are viewed as a downtrodden people who occupy a small land territory in the Middle East named Israel and cling to an ancient orthodox religion.

    From the mainstream Christian perspective, the Jews are viewed as “God’s Chosen People” or those who have had the “Old Testament” written specifically to them. They are also misconstrued as being a “Race” of people who practice a “Distinct Religion” which excludes the New Testament teachings of Jesus Christ.

    All of the above could not be further from the truth.

    If we go back to the Old Testament and break down the word “Jew” into the original Hebrew language we will find a shockingly different meaning to the term. The first time the word “Jew” or “Jews” was mentioned was in the 12th book of the Bilbe in II Kings — II Kings 16:6 –

    6 “At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.”

    From the Hebrew and Chaldee dictionary of the Strong’s Concordance, the term “Jews” is word 3064 and is defined as follows:

    3064 – (yee-hoo-dee); partron, from 3063 a Jehudite ( i.e. a Judaite or Jew) or a descendant of Jehudah (i.e. Judah): – Jew.

    3063 – (yee-hoo-daw); from 3034; celebrated; Jehudah (or Judah) the name of five Isr.; also of the tribe descended from the first, and of its territory: – Judah.

    Thus, from the evidence presented in the Strong’s Concordance, we can conclude that the term “Jew” or “Jews” does not refer to a “Race” of people or a “Religion”, but to a specific people who descended from and are a part of the tribe of Judah, which resided within a specific land territory of the Middle East.

    For example, if I was born in the state of Alabama and was part of a long line of Germanic descendants who had settled a specific region within Alabama, I would be considered a “Southerner”. In other words, I would be associated with a geographical location, not a “Race” of people or a specific “Religion”. Thus, when you read the word “Jew” from the manuscripts of the Bible, it can refer to one thing only, those who are part of the “Tribe of Judah” or of the “House of Judah” which reside within a specific geographical area.

    The House of Judah and the House of Israel comprise those 12 tribes, which make up God’s chosen people as specified within the pages of your Bible. From — Hebrews 8:8 –

    For finding fault with them, He saith, “Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah”.

    Jesus was not a geographical Jew, he was a Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69, John 7:41) and a Juhudaite or descendent of the Tribe of Judah. Jesus grew up in Nazareth in Galilee. His disciples were fisherman from the Sea of Galilee. And although He visited Jerusalem, he spent most of his life in his home country of Galilee. He was 42 generations down the seed line from Abraham.

    Who was the first Jew?

    We know that Saul was the first king of Israel and that John was the first man called Baptist, but who was the first Jew? Neither were Adam, Seth or Noah called Jew. Nor were Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Moses was not called a Jew and neither was Saul, David or Solomon called Jew. As stated prior, you will not find the word Jew in the first 11 books of the Bible.

    Isn’t it interesting that we can read over five hundred pages of the Bible before we find a Jew anywhere, yet those who call themselves Jews today claim the first five books of the bible and call it their Torah? Do you not find it rather strange that those who claim to have written the first five books of the Bible and call themselves Jews, can’t find the word Jew written anywhere in the book they call their own bible, which they claim to have written?

    Tie in Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9

    Israel DOES NOT MEAN Jew

    We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham in Genesis 17:5, and that He changed the name of Jacob to Israel in Genesis 32:28, but nowhere in the Bible do we find where God changed the name of Israel to Jew! There is therefore no authority by which those who say they are Jews can claim to be of Israel!

    But who is Israel? The first time Israel is mentioned in the Holy Scriptures is in the book of Genesis — Genesis 32:28 –

    And He said, “Thy name shall no more be called Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince thou hast power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.”

    Once again, we must go back to the Old Testament and break down the word Israel from the Hebrew and Chaldee within the Strong’s Concordance. “Israel” is word 3478 and is defined as follows:

    3478 – (yis’-raw-ale’); from 8280 and 410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolic name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: -Israel

    8280 – (saw –raw’); a prim. Root; to prevail – have power (as a prince).

    410 – (ale); short from 352; strength; as adj mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity) – God x goodly x great, idol, might (y-one) power, strong.
    Thus, once again we see absolutely no correlation between Israel and Jew. The word Israel means one thing only. A promise to those descendants of Jacob, the 10 tribes of the House of Israel, that they will “rule as God” and possess the “power and strength to prevail” over all the kingdoms of the world as we shall soon witness.

    • Judah was the the son of Jacob…Israel.  He is inclusively contained in that genealogical line. After the death of Solomon the original kingdom divided between Jeroboam and Rehoboam primarily as a tax revolt.  10 tribes remained primarily centered from Samaria, the remaining two,  Judah and Benjamin,  continued to occupy the area concentric to Jerusalem.   Assyria, and subsequently Babylonia sequentially conquered both Northern Israel and Southern Judah, the exiles were allowed to return by decree of Cyrus and due to their rebuilding of the Temple, in its original location, Jerusalem, from that point were collectively referred to as “Jews”. Much as they are collectively referred to today. And yes, Moses and Aaron were of Levi. The point being “In Isaac shall thy seed be blessed.” And Jacob attained the birthright…..Thanks…

  3. Sorry; I hit a wrong button-this comment was directed to Loren. Sue L

  4. I am fascinated to read about your interpretation of Adam and Eve-we do know Adam was 130 yrs old [Gen 5:3]when they started having children, but not what age they were when they stopped. Adam lived to 930 yrs of age [Gen 5:5] but no mention of Eve and her age at death. It mentions having [other] sons and daughters-not, [MANY] other s&d so where 10 billion people came from, I have trouble accepting that
    …from the moment of their Fall from grace, death and decay came to creation so how they would have looked better than when God created them seems to be a stretch to me. This is all conjecture really for any of us except for the facts-sin came into the world with the Fall from Gods’ grace which brought death and decay to all of creation, and eternal separation of Man from His creator and Gods’ plan for sending Jesus to save the world from that curse, using the genealogy of Adam. How sweet God was to Adam that, in spite of Adam and his sin, God still chose him to be the ancestor of Jesus.
    May God give us all a more full measure of His grace and a better understanding of His love, word, and salvation, and help us to ignore the minor things that divert us from the Truth and cause division amongst true believers. In Gods’ love, Sue

    • When Adam, and then Eve, were created, they were created 100% perfect. Perfect in body. Perfect in soul (mind, will, and emotions). And perfect in spirit (with a direct-connect to/with the Holy Spirit).

      When Adam and Eve sinned, they experienced an immediate “spiritual” death (the wages of sin is death). Their direct-connect to/with the Holy Spirit was immediately severed.

      Note: The baptism in the Holy Spirit re-establishes this direct-connect to/with the Holy Spirit, that was severed way back in the Garden of Eden.

      However, the effects of this particular sin (of partaking of the forbidden fruit), as well as future sins that they would commit, would place a progressive and eventual toll upon their remaining soul and body capabilities, but that would not be immediately evident to them.

      That is, although they had died spiritually, they still commanded nearly 100% of their original pre-fall soul and body capabilities and powers. So by all outward appearances, the serpent’s lie of “surely you will not die” appeared to be true, because they were still physically alive and still commanded as much soul-power as previously (from what they could tell) without hindrance.

      Note: When Lucifer sinned, he lost his direct-connect with the Holy Spirit. Although at the moment of his sin, he died spiritually, he did not experience death of his physical being nor of his soul being. He still retained nearly 100% (99.999..%) of his body and soul powers, of which he used to reign as the “god” of his own dominion.

      From what they could tell, Adam and Eve did not die from their “sin”. But they did indeed feel the effects of being cut off from the covering of the Holy Spirit (one effect, being aware of their nakedness, both spiritually and physically).

      There are times when the effects of sin are immediate (an immediate judgment). And there are times when the effects of sin are gradual over time (delayed judgment, but judgment nevertheless).

      Adam was 130 when he began to sire children. By today’s outlook, Adam must have been a wrinkled up, shriveled up, hunkered over old man – certainly too old and frail to have “relations” with Eve – and same with her. They were just too old to have children, by today’s reasoning.

      At 130, Adam didn’t look nor feel a day over 30. Same with Eve. Again, the effects of their “sin”, in regards to their physical youthfulness and capabilities, would take a very long-term gradual toll, that wouldn’t become evident until much later in their lives.

      But exactly when that would be, they didn’t know, since they were the first. With no other preceding humans to go by, this whole ordeal was new uncharted territory with no known time limit. As far as they knew, they just might live forever in their bodies and souls, only having experienced a spiritual death.

      But their times of physical death did indeed come. And after having lived very long lives, having cheated death for so long (as they might have thought), it came as a shock when that part of the judgment for their sins finally did arrive.

      Physical death did come. And the grief and pain felt by those living (Adam and Eve’s many sons and daughters, and myriads of grandchildren) was intense.

      When God performed His “Six Days”, all that was created was found to be “good”. In regards to the Earth, the Earth was established as a perfect birthplace and home for Mankind.

      All that was created on Earth was for Mankind’s benefit, and would aid in the God-designed capability of Adam and Eve’s bodies to live forever (had they not sinned).

      Not only would they have lived forever, but Eve, and all female descendants, could have begotten children forever, but never showing so much as a stretch mark. And after each child, a woman would only gain in radiance and beauty – never becoming too old and tired after having so many children – but in fact desiring more.

      The environment of the Earth – the plants, the air, the water, the sunlight, etc – were all designed to promote eternal physical life for Mankind.

      Even after Adam and Eve sinned, these environmental qualities did not diminish but still promoted very long lives. But for the “physical” to continue to be maintained indefinitely, the spiritual must be in effect 100%, because the spiritual is superior to the physical, and as a covering of the physical.

      So the physical environment of the Earth continued to support very long lives for pre-Flood Mankind, but due to their spiritual separation due to sin, the physical could not continue to be sustained indefinitely. Consequently, physical death did indeed come to pass, just not immediately.

      The physical environment of the Earth was also rich in supporting very healthy and wholesome bodies, with age-defying nutrients. So it is reasonable that pre-Flood Mankind did not show “aging” until close to death, perhaps shown none at all.

      With these factors in mind, it is reasonable to conclude that pre-Flood women could produce children for 600-700+ years of their lives. With each woman producing 600-700 children, and of those children, ~50% being female, it wouldn’t take long before Mankind filled the Earth.

      The ratio of land-to-water was opposite of what it is today. Today we have ~75% water, 25% land. Back then, it was ~75% land, 25% water, because a whole lot of today’s water was at that time in the “fountains of the deep”, as well as in the “firmament” that was above the Earth as part of the “shield” against harmful cosmic radiation.

      With all these factors in mind, it is reasonable that 18-21 billion people existed at the time of the Flood, because the environment could easily sustain that many, perhaps even more.

      Mankind today is about 1/10th of what pre-Flood Mankind was. We are about 1/10th the age span and about 1/10th the soul power. (It is often stated that modern Mankind uses only 1/10th or less of its brain power, with perhaps a few exceptions above 1/10th.)

      The Earth has gone through many catastrophic changes since Mankind was created. We know, of course, about the Flood. Little known is what happened during and after the Tower of Babel, but which was another worldwide cataclysmic event. And there have been many regional events, as well as local.

      Each of these catastrophic events has had a downward effect upon Mankind’s age span and soul power (power of mind, will, and emotions).

      What Mankind has achieved in the past few hundred years in technological prowess is but a replacement for what Mankind once possessed naturally.

      (The Industrial Revolution was a replacement for Mankind’s previous natural strength. The Communications Revolution was a replacement for Mankind’s previous natural communications capabilities. The Computer Revolution was a replacement for Mankind’s previous brain power. Etc.)

      Picture Adam having the strength of 10 or more Arnold’s. Picture Eve having the beauty of 10 or more Elizabeth Taylor’s. Picture Adam and Eve both having the brain power of 10 or more Tesla’s. Etc.

      So to say, that what is today, is how it was before the Flood, would be a gross error in the understanding of things, and especially in the understanding of Biblically recorded history.

      Mankind has not “evolved”, but rather, “devolved”.

      This devolution did not happen overnight, but has been a sort of “delayed judgment”, due to our continued sin against God and His Creation.

      Indeed, if another worldwide cataclysmic event should happen (as has been prophesied), Mankind, at 1/10 of where we started, would not survive another blow to its age span and soul power.

      Indeed, “unless those days be shortened” …

  5. False teachings down through the ages:

    A. The world is only 6,000 years old (True/False)?

    False:

    The world is billions of years old and the Bible declares it.
    (Gen 1:1-2)..It’s called the “Gap Theory”. God created the world and “then” it became without form and void..Why ?

    There must have been a reason ? Right ?

    <<<<>>>>

    Now..After Gen 1:2 we see the first day being created…then the second…etc…Up until Adam being formed on the 7th day…

    Now if we go by (II Peter 3:8) which states that “one day with the lord is as a thousand years”…well then we have “ATLEAST” 7,000 years from Gen 1:2 to Adams appearing on the scene..The 7th day = 7,000 years… So,now…How many years has it been since Adam until now ?

    You got it…6,000 years.

    So we have atleast 13,000 years from Gen 1:2 until now…the year 2011….But remember….the “Gap Theory”

    It was “Billions of years or more from Gen 1:1 to Gen 1:2

    B. The Old Testament was written to the “Jews” (True/False)?

    False:

    Adam wasn’t a “Jew”
    Abraham wasn’t a “Jew”
    Issac wasn’t a “Jew”
    Jacob wasn’t a “Jew”

    The first time the “term” Jew(s) was used in the Old Testament was in II Kings 16:6

    The Old Testament was written to the House of Israel (The Ten Tribes) and the House of Judah (The Tribe of Judah) from which Jesus Christ came.

    And DO NOT correlate “Israel” with “Jew”…”Israel” DOES NOT EQUAL OR MEAN JEW !

    The first time and many times after that, that the term Israel was mentioned in the Old Testament was in Genesis 32:28

    The word “Israel” is the Hebrew word 3478 in your Strong’s Concordance which means:

    “he will rule as God; a symbolic name of Jacob; and of his posterity” ….NOT A JEW !

    Meaning all of those decendants of Jacob, who were the direct decendants of Adam’s geaneology (seed line) were of the seventh day creation NOT the Sixth day creation.

    C. Jesus Christ is not mentioned in the Old Testament.

    False:

    He’s mentioned over and over. You do the homework.

    Hint: He doesn’t go by the name “Jesus”

    D. When Jesus Christ return’s at his second coming He’s coming to bring peace on earth.

    False:

    Mathhew 10:34

    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

    He’s coming back to slice and dice his “enemies”…And THAT’S WRITTEN MANY TIMES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT !

    And his “enemies” will be those he finds worshipping a false christ aka (Satan Himself) when “He” comes back to this earth as a theif in the night.

    Matthew 7:(21-23) and a few other places….

  6. Re: I really don’t care who the Nephilim were—they were also wiped out by the flood remember? They were here before the flood and after!
    and thier bloodline exists today.. follow the money.

    • they were wiped out in the flood; only 8 people survived the flood. Gen 7:22-23.

      • The nephilim were there then and after… (Gen. 6:4). Refer to Numbers 13:33 for the nephilim that were there afterward.

  7. In Mt 22:29-30 Jesus Himself makes it clear that angels do not marry as He was answering the question re the widow of 7 brothers and resurrection. The Nephilim is indeed an intriguing question but what is MORE important in Gen 6 is that whoever they were was NOT as important as the end result which was Gods’ grief and pain over the wickedness of mankind and His having to wipe out mankind except for 8 people. If we sit and try to figure out who or what they were, we are distracted from the Truth and our faith gets shaken which is EXACTLY what satan wants of us! We get sidetracked from the entire message which is evil cannot be accepted by a pure and holy God. It is simply another way for satan to deceive us, like Adam and Eve which is the lesson we need to learn. I really don’t care who the Nephilim were—they were also wiped out by the flood remember? All I care about is that God was/is merciful and His will will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Amen!

  8. I think the sons were material beings and not ministering spirits gone awry. The “gods” of myt hology are what Genesis is referring to. Superhuman beings who so awed humans on Earth that they considered them gods. See “The Lost Book of Enki”.

  9. Chesterworth_Paul

    The words “Sons of God” could mean spirits not yet given an body. That is what Jesus was a spirit that was not yet given a body when he was with god during creation. That would suggest the Sons of God were put on Earth to represent God , as Jesus did. They failed God by procreating with multiple women and made God angry enough to cleanse the Earth.

  10. I like your article(s) overall. However, just a little note of correction, GOD did not tell Adam & Eve to be fruitful and multiply and there is no reason to think they did so until after they disobeyed GOD and were no longer beings w/ a spiritual nature who would not die. Following their disobedience, they were cast from the Garden, became like the rest of mankind who procreated, did not live in GOD’s Garden, and who died. GOD placed Adam & Eve in the Garden with certain conditions. The remainder of mankind were placed upon the earth like all creation, could move about as they wished, and were told to be fruitful and multiply.

    Adam & Eve were formed directly by the Hand of GOD whereas the remainder of mankind were spoken into existence by GOD as was the other parts of creation. This is exactly what the Bible says. To think otherwise requires conjecture.
    JohnP

    • Gen 1: 27-28 clearly states Gods’ mandate to Adam and Eve to “be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.” They are banished from the Garden of Eden, and then they have children starting with Cain Gen 4:1-2. Gen 5:3 -4 lists other sons and daughters. You are conjecturing that others were placed upon the earth like all creation-all mankind began with Adam and Eve.

      • Read a little closer, Sue. It does not state that this is God’s mandate to Adam & Eve, it says “man.” This mankind was spoken into existence and GOD says he created both male and female and told them to multiply and fill the earth and that fruit from fruit bearing trees was theirs for food.
        The creation of Adam & Eve was not related until Genesis Chapter 2 and GOD did NOT speak them into existence, DID NOT tell them to be fruitful and multiply, and did not tell tell them to fill the earth. Rather, he placed them into a garden and He DID NOT tell them they were free to eat the fruit of any tree.
        So you see, you must read GOD’s Word very carefully. There is no need to make up things that aren’t there . . . you’ll only deceive yourself.
        Carefully read without making assumptions, you’ll see that there was already mankind upon the earth spoken into existence by GOD when GOD formed Adam from the dust of the earth and when GOD took the rib from Adam to create Eve. Two entirely separate creations. Check it out

      • Sorry,

        Adam and Eve weren’t mentioned until the 7th day creation…Post Genesis 2:7

        • Hey John, I don’t know where you are getting your data from – but Genesis 1 clearly says that they were created on day six. May I suggest that you read my book “The First Six Days” – I discuss the order of creation and such. http://www.douglashamp.com/books/the-first-six-days/

          • Doug… Who are “They” ?

            Let’s just be honest about God’s creation…

            If Adam and Eve were the parents of “All of Mankind”….

            Then Adam and Eve’s children would have the following characteristics…

            Half the hair on their head would be blond and straight…The other half would be Black and “Nappy” characteristic of the african people’s hair.

            On their face you would see….

            The left eye being dark in the pupil and being “Almond” shaped denoting an Asian characteristic…and the right eye being “Blue” in the pupil denoting “Scandanavian”..

            Regarding the rest of the “Framework” from the shoulders down….Well we would see “Half hairy chests”…Multi-colored limbs…etc….

            ———————————–

            The moral of the story: God doesn’t deal in or creates “Human Melting Pot’s” ….

            He created the “races” as seperate and distinct from each other..Just look at the world and the way it’s continent’s were layed out over the land territory of the world and the history of the people’s who have occupied those land territories for the past 6,000 plus years…

            All are distinct and unique…

            Anyone with half a pea brain can see that God created “seperate” distinct races which were created for a reason and purpose.

            Not from “One set of Peoples”

            I’ll address your wife “Sue”…soon regarding Cain.

          • Jon,

            Just an FYI – my wife is not Sue. I don’t quite follow your thoughts about genetics. May I recommend an article by Answers In Genesis http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/are-there-different-races

            God only created one race which began with Adam and Eve. Why do you insist otherwise and where is your biblical proof?

        • Hey John, I don’t know where you are getting your data from – but Genesis 1 clearly says that they were created on day six. May I suggest that you read my book “The First Six Days” – I discuss the order of creation and such. http://www.douglashamp.com/books/the-first-six-days/

        • Hey John, I don’t know where you are getting your data from – but Genesis 1 clearly says that they were created on day six. May I suggest that you read my book “The First Six Days” – I discuss the order of creation and such. http://www.douglashamp.com/books/the-first-six-days/

    • Hi John,

      I don’t quite understand how you can suggest that God had made some other humans before or along side of Adam and Eve – they were the first two people and every one else came from them – that is why all humans are known as the sons of Adam. Jesus Himself confirms that Adam and Eve were the first And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made [them] at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ (Matthew 19:4) and of course Adam also states that his wife’s name would be Eve because she was the mother of all living. Where are you getting this idea that all other humans else was spoken into existence? Take care.

    • John…

      Excellent observance..

      Genesis 1:26-28 clearly ststes that God created the “Races”..the ethnic peoples of the world before he created Adam…

      Gen 1:27 states ” God created man”

      The “Ethnic” peoples of the world were “created”…While Adam or the Adamic people were “formed” from the dust of the ground.

      Gen 2:7 states the “Lord God formed man”

      The “Races” or “Ethnic” peoples of the world were created on the 6th day …The Adamic people were created on the 7th day.

      To think or even consider that “All of mankind” came from Adam and Eve is preposterous and goes against the written word.

      • Where do you see work done on the Sabbath Day? There isnt any. Or do you mean to tell that God lied and didnt rest on the seventh day? Im comparing what you are saying to scripture right now and none of it lines up. It says that God gave man authority over every living creature in Gen 1:28. Then in Gen 2:20 Adam gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the air. Please explain this and tell me how it fits with what you are saying. You cant, because it doesnt fit.

  11. I would have to disagree with this guy stating that demons are fallen angels everything else i dont have a problem with.Fallen angels are fallen angels , demons are disembodied spirits of the neferlim.gaborim,giants the spirits left after the forbidden unionship between fallen angels and human women.there was no place in heaven for these something quite different I would be thinking doug needs to ask jesus for some clarity with this.

  12. First of all, Cain was not Adam’s son. No where in Adam’s geaneology will you find Cain. Read Genesis Chapter 5 for yourself.

    Cain is the product of Satan and Eve. Who do you think was the “Serpent” in the garden ? Who do you think was the “Tree of the knowledge of good and evil?” …Satan himself !!!! (Genesis 3:15)

    Cain was “of that evil one” (I John 3:10-12)he WAS NOT Adam’s son.

    Cain and his offspring are the “sepent seed race” which are ever present until this day. they control the Media, the World Banking institutions (Fed,etc)and the Medical and Educational establishments right here in the good Ol’ USA. Do you ever wonder why Hollywood and the Media at large is Satanic?

    Cain and his offspring are those who “Claim to be Jews” and are not but are of the Synagogoue Of Satan. (Rev 2:9 and Revelation 3:9) In otherwords, the Church of Smyrna and the church of Philadelphia. The ONLY two churches which Jesus Christ approved of…The rest were apostate churches.

    Are you attending a church that teaches the doctrine of the Church of Smyrna and the Church of Philadelphia? Those that taught of the Synagogue of Satan ? Satan’s literal,physical offspring who reside on this earth until this day? (Matthew 13:35-39)

    If your not your in serious trouble. Why? Real simple. The first “christ” (lowercase) which shows up on the scene (In Jerusalem) will be Satan himself, not some “mortal man” who possessed by the Devil like so many false prophets down through the ages have predicted.

    Satan himself is “The Anti-Christ” and he will appear before Jesus Christ Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21. The “rapture” IS A DOCTRINE OF DEVILS..No one is going ANYWHERE!

    In fact, anyone who believes in a Rapture will most likely end up worshipping the Anti-Christ…Ya I know, harsh words…But it is THE TRUTH !

    • You are so correct! It’s so evident, but most are under a grand delusion. Most forget the parable of the tares which teaches it will be the tares that are first gathered and burned. And if you volunteer for the first gathering, guess what . . . .
      Thanks for your comment.
      JohnP

    • You are way off from the first statement and that is where your whole argument falls through due to false statements. Gen 4:1 -2 clearly shows Adam and Eves’ firstborn son as Cain, and then Abel is born. Gen 4:25 tells of 3rd son Seth being born, and that is where Gen 5 comes in for the genealogy of Adam as Abel is dead at the hand of Cain and for that offense, Cain is banished by God, and went to the land of Nod (vs 15)-Cain was no longer alive to Adam and the continuation of his line, in Gods’ redemptive plan. You are on a slippery slope Jon

      • Sue…

        Your slope is straight down if you listen to the “Traditions of Men”…aka…”False prophets”

        Note:

        Abel wasn’t in Adam’s geaneology because he didn’t “live on” and carry offspring…And yes..Seth took his place..

        Then pray tell me, why isn’t Cain who did live on not in Adam’s geaneology ?

        Have you ever heard of twins by two different conceptions ?

        Eve was impregnated by Adam and was seduced by Satan (Himself)in the garden of Eden..Not a snake! Like so many Satanic False prophets who claim to be Christians preach ! Go read II Corinthians 11: 1-3

        And look up the word “Beguiled” in your Strong’s Concordance..it’s the Greek word 1818 which means to be “Wholly Seduced”…

        Do I need to spell that out ?

        Back to Cain….

        Who was the first murderer?

        Cain ! You got it !

        John 8:44

        Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

        Want more proof on Cain ?

        Matthew 23:31-35

        31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

        32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

        33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

        34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

        35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

        Sue ? Who slew Abel ?

        You got it…Cain !

        Who was of the serpent race…a generation of vipers…

        The literal physical seed of Satan !!

        My question to you…

        Do you really think “they” will get away with it ?

        Think about it.

        • Jon, satan was a fallen angel and if Jesus is to be believed, they cannot marry(have sexual relations) -Mt 22:30 Jesus is answering about the resurrection and the widow of 7 husbands. Jesus called the Pharisees and Sadduccees a brood of vipers, snakes in Mt 23:33, in John 8:44 He calls them children of the devil-a murderer from the beginning. Does this mean satans’ physical offspring-no! There is no sex involved here. Adam and Eve are not mentioned for having sex until Gen4:1 when Cain was conceived—the only beguiling was spiritual—
          be·guile (b-gl)
          tr.v. be·guiled, be·guil·ing, be·guiles
          1. To deceive by guile; delude. See Synonyms at deceive.
          2. To take away from by or as if by guile; cheat: a disease that has beguiled me of strength.
          3. To distract the attention of; divert: “to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming” (Abraham Lincoln).
          4. To pass (time) pleasantly.
          5. To amuse or charm; delight. See Synonyms at charm.

          se·duce (s-ds, -dys)
          tr.v. se·duced, se·duc·ing, se·duc·es
          1. To lead away from duty, accepted principles, or proper conduct. See Synonyms at lure.
          2. To induce to engage in sex.
          3.
          a. To entice or beguile into a desired state or position.
          b. To win over; attract.
          —http://www.thefreedictionary.com
          Spiritual offspring absolutely AFTER the Fall. Satan was a murderer in the sense that mankind died spiritually when Adam and Eve were deceived by him in the Garden which is why Jesus had to come to ransom us from eternal death. Cain was driven from Gods’ presence and cursed by God to wander the earth; he had no part of Adams’ genealogy any longer-only the 3rd son Seth [Gen 4:25-26]. That is also why it is important in Gen4:26b where Seth had Enosh-‘At that time men began to call on the name of the Lord.’
          “The first human ever to walk the earth was named Adam. The Torah explains the name. The Hebrew word for earth is adama. God formed man from the dust of the earth, and on the simplest level, that connection with adama, earth, is the basis for man’s name.” – Rabbi Doniel Baron
          —http://www.aish.com.
          This explains Gen 2 as telescoping in on the event of Gen1:26-27. Adam was not officially named until God took him from the earth [Gen2:7] ‘the Lord God formed the man from the dust- and placed him in the Garden of Eden [vs8] ‘and there He put the man He had formed’-and he is named finally in vs 20. Gen 5:1-2 is almost identical to Gen 1:27-28a which signifies the importance of the fact that Jesus is descended through Adam-Cains’ line was cursed by God-Cain did the first murder, the 7th descendant from him,Lamech, was the first polygamist. They were all killed in the Flood save for Noah and his family of 7. Only Adams’ line through Seth continued to Jesus so there could be no imposters that would try to lay claim as the Messiah.
          I am sorry if I am zigzaging on all this but I have only come to understand all this in the last year or two myself. I am so fascinated by Gods’ salvation plan and SO grateful for His love and mercy when we do not deserve it. God is good! Sue

          • Sue,

            You want to “spiritualize” everyhing away when it comes to rightly dividing the word. You either can’t face the fact that Satan has children here on this earth or you can’t believe “someone” could come up with such a “theory”.

            ———————

            You stated’ “which signifies the importance of the fact that Jesus is descended through Adam-Cains’ line.”

            ———————

            Jesus came through Adam’s-Seth’s seed line. The “good” seed. The Synaggoue Of Satan (Rev 2:9, Rev 3:9)..Those that claim to be “Jews” and do lie came through Satan’s seed line, the “bad” seed which Cain was of.

            Let’s analyze the “Good seed” and the “Bad seed” and let’s let Jesus explain WHO THE CHILDREN OF SATAN ARE AND WHO THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE.

            ———————

            It’s called the “Parable of the tares” and it’s found in Matthew Chapter 13.

            The “parable” of the tares starts in verse 24 of Matthew 13 and end in verse 30. This was Jesus speaking to “the multitudes” about the parable of the tares.

            In verse 36 of Matthew 13, Jesus sends “the multitudes” away while his “disciples” came up to him and said,

            “Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the feild”

            Now…what’s going to happen from verse 37 forward ?

            Jesus is “EXPLANING THE PARABLE!” TO HIS DISCIPLES…

            ARE YOU READY ? BUCKLE YOUR SEAT BELT’S !!!

            ——————–

            Matthew 13:(37-40)

            37 He answered and said unto them, “He that soweth the good seed if the Son of man;

            38 The feild is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

            ——————–

            I think everyone here knows who the “wicked one” is…He goes by the names: The devil,the serpent, the dragon and Satan….

            ——————–

            39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

            ——————–

            The devil “sowed the wicked seed” in the garden of eden..
            Oh really? How can we be sure?

            ——————–

            40 As therefore the tares are gathered together and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of the world.

            ——————–

            It’s real simple..The children of Satan are going into the lake of fire at the end of this world…Which isn’t very far away..

            BUT ! BUT !! What about the word “seed” in verses 37-40?

            Let’s find out.

            The word “seed” in verses 37-40 is found in the Greek Dictionary of your Strong’s Concordance. And it’s word 4690:

            sperma – pron (sper’ mah); from 4687; something sown, i.e.seed(incl. the male “sperm”); by impl. offspring; spec, a remnant (fig. as if kept over for planting);.issue,seed.

            ———————————————–

            Wow…Does the Devil have “children” on this earth ?

            You bet!! Children produced from “male sperm”..

            And don’t even “think of trying to spiritualize” away the word “seed” into meaning something “evil spiritually”..

            ———————-

            So in conclusion:

            Let’s compare a few verses:

            Once again: pay attention to “the wicked one” and the children of the devil..

            ———————-

            Matthew 13:38

            The feild is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

            and

            I John 3:(10-12)

            10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil; whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

            11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another,

            12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.

            —————–

            Case closed.

          • Claude Armstrong

            Jon, I’m long after the above post, but, creator in no way assigns procreation to angels. He alone has ability to mutate beings, since, if angels had this power, then they woul long ago have replaced ALL humans with their mutants, who are clearly capable of super-human powers to annihilate Mankind

            Your diatribe reminds one of struggling with a gnat, and swallowing a camel. It’s really, really simple; Creator controls all life on Planet Earth, and angel-human mutants never existed.

          • Matt 22:30 speaks of marriage not sex. They were trying to trip up Jesus by asking who, of the several dead husbands, would the woman belong to. The answer is none, as there is no marriage in heaven. It is not talking about on earth. It does not say that angels are cannot leave their abode in heaven and come to earth and be with women. Genesis 6 says that angels did do just that.

          • Jesus was replying to the levirate law as you say,[Deut 25:5-6]of a son dying and leaving no heir so the widow was to marry the next brother to protect her and to continue the family line by producing children-yes they were trying to catch Him up but it would seem He is making it clear that they had no concept of what angels are, as well as the resurrection-spirits only, not human-except for certain situations-Abraham and Sarah/Sodom, Jacob wrestling, etc but they are only to accomplish a mission from God. Heb 2:16-17 speaks of Jesus -‘For surely it is not angels He helps, but Abrahams’ descendants. FOR THIS REASON, HE HAD TO BE MADE LIKE HIS BROTHERS IN EVERY WAY-in human form.’
            There is no reference to angels in Gen 6 that I can see-however, I am reading from my Bible notation on this which says it could be that the ‘sons of God’ refer to the god-ordained line of Sethites who mingled with the Cainites, ‘daughters of men’. We need to truly understand the Truth of what happened in the Garden of Eden; that we are all born with a sinful nature and therefore separated eternally from God, and cannot do anything of ourselves to bridge that, and therefore need salvation outside of ourselves (Jesus). Only if we accept that Truth, will we become co-heirs with Christ and therefore ‘sons of God’. [Rom 8:14-17]otherwise we are ‘all daughters of men’—this makes sense to me as women did not have inheritance only men-Cain did not have an Adamic inheritance, only the Sethite line from which Jesus came could have the chance to be sons of God.
            Who knows? It still does not change the main theme of Gods’ plan for redemption for fallen man.
            My concordance on ‘angel’ references always speak of them in heavenly terms and coming to earth as messengers from God, never sons of God[Heb 1:14]. Satan and his demons are fallen angels certainly but again, not sons of God. Therefore Rom 8 ref. makes more sense to me.
            The main fact of Genesis is that all mankind is under the curse of sin no matter what, and God made a way out through Jesus- other things are there to add depth to the theme but satan will use them to distract and divide believers to take away their faith.
            I certainly do enjoy these discussions, they are helping me to increase my faith in Jesus, and the wonder that God could love us that much to reach down from Heaven to save us. It is awesome; I cannot wait to be home with Him and be able to talk with Him and all those who went before. I would not be surprised if God shows us exactly what did happen from the beginning of Creation all the way to the present-if He doesn’t, that is ok, He is enough, but it would be fun to see how it all unfolded, wouldn’t it? In Gods’ love, Sue L

          • Please research ‘sons of God’. It refers to direct creations of God as in Adam, angels, believers transformed. Research Hebrew meanings for words, and Septuagint, etc. Sons of God in Gen 6 is not Sethites, nor is the ‘daughters of men’ ‘Cainites’. Also, angels sin, see 2 Pet 2:5 – 8. These verses directly relate the angels that sinned and are chained awaiting judgment, back with the time of Noah and with Sodom and Gamorrah where men left their natural desires and gave in to unnatural desires. I do agree with you though that the important part is the gospel, and that satan loves to divide and cause chaos.

          • Wow, someone here at least understands what the “sons pf God are”
            You are so right scisme49. 

          • Oh, I forgot to say that I will be right there with you looking for the micro phish file room in heaven…hahhaa.
            God bless you Sue

          • Oh, I forgot to say that I will be right there with you looking for the micro phish file room in heaven…hahhaa.
            God bless you Sue

  13. Great read. I agree with most of the article, but I am having trouble with a couple of points you made. The first being that ‘Satan’s seed’ refers to the offspring of fallen angels and humans. If ‘her seed’ is Jesus, then isn’t Satan’s seed’ the anti-christ? The second point in question is that of fallen angels being demons. Sons of God are direct creations of God such as angels, Adam, transformed believers, that isn’t in question. I am questioning why you suggest that because angels present themselves before God that they must be demons? Where do you get that? I read elsewhere that demons are the souls of the nephelim bound to the earth…who knows. Also, aren’t the angels that sinned held in chains awaiting judgment, so obviously not presenting themselves before God?

    • Hey – I agree that the seed of Satan is the Antichrist and I am leading up to that. I first want to establish what has already happened in the past so that I can firmly show what is/will happen now/soon. I have heard the demons are the souls of Nephilim theory. I am neither for it nor against it really. I don’t see any positive biblical evidence and we do see that demons are menioned as being the false gods of antiquity (see Psalm 106).

      • Oh yes, I do see that in Psalm 106:36-38. They sacrificed their children to demons, idols of the false gods. The false gods being the fallen angels. I can see where you make the connection. Thank you.

  14. YesI have always know this. The sons of God or fallen angels mingled with the seed of women. What I have learned lately is that the luciferians are planning the same today, with genetic engineering. Mixing the fallen angels with the seed of man. This is the same technology of old and the secerts have been kept from times of old in ancient knowledge of the old mystic relgions. I believe that before the flood mankind had gained this technolgy as now. Nothing new under the sun, man living 900 years, the lost civilivation of atlantis was the civilization of before the flood. This joining of man with demon was done before and there are plans to do it now,if not already done. The symbols of most secret orders are of these signs . It is the sign of “as above so below” This is the “key” DNA mixing with DNA of demons. The symbols of ancent times has the symbol of DNA , Jacobs ladder. If the Anti Christ comes to earth as a man well he will need to mix with a man. http://mikehoggard.com/

    • Why do you keep re-posting your same comment? Just wondering…

    • Hi Craig, I agree that we are seeing a repeat of what has come before – it would seem that just as the mixing of demons with humans in the days of Noah triggered God’s judgment so too will the current mixing trigger God’s judgment. You stated: “If the Anti Christ comes to earth as a man well he will need to mix with a man.” – I discuss this in detail in my last chapter – what is truly scary is the technique to do so is already available. The days are short indeed!

  15. Thank God for Everything We Are and Do,Everyday. Without God, We are only Sons of Man. Do All You Can Do to be a Son of God.

  16. There are over 16 Billion Souls in this incaration and many more souls who have come in from other worlds. The age of this planet or anything in or on it is irrelevant. We are Beings with No Beginning or End(Alpha and Omega). God is so much More than we can think of in our Human Forms. Relax, Pray to God Fervently and Enjoy Everyday you have in the Body you occupy Now.

  17. What if I told you that the “scripture” your quoting is a copy or forgery of writings created over 2000 years earlier?
    The nephilim are not what you think. They are described as “fallen” in the torah. But in the original story in Surmerian. These fallen are called Igigi or Anunnaki (from heaven to earth came).
    The copiers of the bible, torah and koran took the writings of Sumer, Babylon, Assyria and Egypt and invented their own stories in Hebrew. Gilgamesh is almost an exact story as the so-called Noah. Nimrod is almost exactly like Sargon. To this day. Judaism, Islam and Christianity end their prayers to the Sun god of Egypt, Amon (amen).
    The history of mankind is found in great detail on clay tablets inscribed by Sumerians. This civilastion exsisted and prospered thousands of years before the nomads mentioned in the bible, torah and koran.
    For the record. There was no “talking snake” in Edin (eden). But there was a god/person named Enki that used the snake as a symbol.
    There was no “exodus” of 500,000 to 1 million Hebrew slaves in Egypt. There is no such place as Mt. Sinia. To this day. There is no evidence of magical clothing of 500,000 wandering nomads in the desert for 40 years. No. Not one magical sandel strap was found. I’m afraid mankind is continually being manipulated through religions for the few who wish to control humanity.

    • Type your comment here.These biblical texts were not copied. They were prophets moved by the Spirit of God as He instructed them.

      There’s little time left for people to know the truth of WHICH holy book is the true one. The way you know: the one that (tells the thing before it happens) ie fulfilled prophecy.

      When you do this, take just the scriptures on the coming Christ. It’s mathematically impossible for this to be anyone other than Jesus of Nazareth.

      Search them out…it’s not one or two…but HUNDREDS! THIS PUTS TO SHAME ALL OTHER “HOLY BOOKS” OR “ENLIGHTENED” PEOPLE.

      Make this your mission…since the stakes are just too high!

      JK

      • Please make up your mind. Are you speaking of an entity creator outside of our space and time? Or are you talking about the god who walks in the shade of Edin? Kills animals for skins? Loves the smell of roasting meat (sacrafices)?
        You cannot have it both ways. Either God is a invisible (spirit) entity or he is a physical being that interacts with mankind.
        The bible, torah and koran speak of both types of beings. And many, many “gods”. Were our ancient ancestors idiots? As much as Hollywood, IsRaEl and churches wish us to believe, they were not.
        Abram was chosen to lead because he was taught by the gods (Elohim). But overall. He was chosen for his deceptive nature. Like giving his half sister wife Sarah away to “satisfy” the lust of others. Now that’s a man of “god”. How about the incestous Lot? The story is he got drunk by his daugther and she “laid” with him. This man of god fell drunk again by his other daughter. And she “laid” with him also.
        Now according to the “law”. Each of these men and their mates should have been stoned. But the god of these men relished in the wholesale slaughter and gutting of women and children of other tribes.
        These are not the actions of an invisible entity. These men of god feared physically from earthly beings.
        The stories that man has been told about our history is false. And the religions that bind mankind to ignorance and fear will one day be broken. For goodness sake…..GET OFF OF YOUR KNEES!!!!!

        • who are you to know the mind of god? maybe he is both spirit, and,physical, and or all together something different.one thing i know is he is above your understanding.my second point is, you say lot was incestous,oh really? did you know god chose to save him and his ilk from sudden destruction of sodom and gomorrah,because he was a just/good man.just think god wiped out the whole sodom and gomorrah,all its people and animals,but saved lot,his wife,and his daughters .his wife would have been saved to but she looked back,and was turned to salt/dust. so if god saved them(lot) wouldnt he have wanted then lots seed to go on??? and for your information he didnt go after his daughters, his daughters got him drunk to the point he didnt know what was happening,read your bible ,lot was a good man,his seed did carry on,to fulfil gods purpose because his daughters bore a son whom they named moab which became the moabites,his other daughter bore a son to, his name was ben-ammi, he became the father of the people of ammon ,my third point is god takes no pleasure in destroying anything only if it is unclean /evil. of course you wouldnt know that because you never picked up the bible before,you just want to pervert the holy book ,and make everybody think like you do, for goodness sake GET ON YOUR KNEES!!!!!!…………JESUS RULES+++

        • You’re almost there Markdp67. You were faced with two equally plausible stories, and you chose to believe in physical aliens rather than a superdimentional God. The trouble is that we have modern day miracles that happen through prayer. Look up Don Piper and Ian McCormack. John Wimber is another good one to search. If the Bible isn’t good enough evidence to get rid of your anunnaki alien theory, those guys should help you out.

    • they did find the chariot wheels at the bottom of the red sea!

    • James_mendoza2007

      thats true bro..i agree with u…most of them dont accept the fact…still closed minded

    • You sound like a zeitgeist dupe! You sound also like David Icke follower. Please get an education and check out the info you read/ listen to. Alexander Sitchen is a fraud by the way. A real scholar of ancient languages by the name of Micheal Heiser can help you with that one. 

      Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  18. I believe that there is w/o doubt something to this, I do have problems w/the age of the earth (realize, not subject matter) though, it’s clear that it can not be much older than 13 – 25 thousand yrs of age (ref. david flynn’s ‘orouborus’) which would seem to fit w/the young earth views (my views also) which too I believe that noah’s ark has been located.
    The ‘fallen angel’ sons of God clears up a lot of questions of gen.6 but sometimes i wonder, as sin runs amuck today how many humnaoids are tainted. While reading somewhere in the book of enoch, this hybrid giant was having a discussion w/the Lord by trying (giant) to reason with God if it would be possible for him to live forever with the Lord and the Lord told him (giant) that when he died that his soul would go by the way as the animals, never to live again, yes, there’s something to this!

    • What would you tell a person that was born with extra fingers and toes {even though they are not a “giant”}? Is this an indication of nephilim “DNA”? Will they struggle more with the sins of the flesh than others? Was the “giant” that you read about {in the book of Enoch} washed in the blood of the Lamb? Do you differentiate between “soul” and “spirit”?

  19. Classic example of taking the meaning out of context…this is the style of interpreting scripture to mean anything you want it to.

    • OK DAVE WHAT IS THE CONTEXT, TYPICAL BIBLICAL KNOW IT ALL, SAYS YOUR WRONG BUT WONT SAY WHY. THAT’S BECAUSE ITS PERSONAL NOT BIBLICAL; JUST CAN’T DEAL WITH THE TRUTH!

    • Wow Dave. I used to think the same way man. If you think this idea is crazy, you should check out Nimrod (also known as Gilgamesh, Osiris, Apollo etc.), Jacob’s ladder, the book of Daniel and Revelation. Job is pretty interesting too. So how did giants get here Dave? I agree with Benson0316.

  20. My name is Adam. I am my father, and he is his father, that inturn makes me my fathers, father. Alll the way back to Adam and Eve. Few hiccups along the way, but neverthelss here I am. And well, I dont look anything like I started. But that doesnt change the fact those filthy fallen ones , that were in Grace but are not now, stole, my, daughters and had there way into abominations oh the jealousy of sin.

    It sickens me, look at lady gaga for example. Argh, what has time shown us.? they defiled and ahhhhh ahhhhhhhhh, thats how I feel when I look at the sluts of today. and witches and , I loved my daughters at some stage, now I have to reason myself they are only brothers and sisters. May the truth set us free and restore what started as the circle of Life.
    contact me at, bolthid@yahoo.com

    and the Prince of Peace returns asap

  21. Well presented! And few people would realize what you stated, that “there were conceivably over ten billion people at the time!” Exactly! Because the environment then was far superior than now, and peoples’ ages were 10 times longer than now (as well as 10 times the “soul” – mind, will, emotions – power).

    Picture a woman back then, who, from aged 100-800, or more years, could produce children, even twins – and NEVER SHOW IT! 700-800 years of putting forth children! And that would be just one woman. So picture as Mankind multiplies, under these conditions, would do so off the charts, compared to today. But the environment then could support such a population load.

    When Adam and Eve died, especially Eve after producing so many children, not a wrinkle graced their bodies. They were more handsome and beautiful than the day they were created.

    And look at Mankind now. Oh, how we have fallen over the thousands of years since ..

    And certain people would call this process “evolution”, but it sure looks more like “devilution”, i.e. the effects of devilish sin on the human race.

    But Jesus came to restore the Original Destinies, that were established before the foundations of the world for Mankind, for those who accept Him into their hearts and lives, so that they may one day reign as priests and kings, alongside Jesus, over ALL that the Godhead had created way back .. “In the beginning”.

    Creation was created for Mankind’s benefit. And Mankind was created for Jesus’ benefit. And this is what was planned, before the Godhead even began the first act of creation. Way back then, before He spoke the first Word, He already had YOU in heart and mind ..

    If you who are reading this, haven’t yet asked Him into your heart and life, do so now. He has much waiting for you, that was planned way back “In the beginning”, and far surpasses anything that this world, and its “god”, could ever offer or deliver.

    • Creation was NOT created for man. Creation was created by God for God. To think that everything on this planet was created for bi-pedled humanoids is spiritually immature and neglects the reality that all things were created by him, those we are destroying with our self-centeredness and those we know nothing about. It is this human-based individual egotism that has led mankind to destroy the planet he lives on.

      The reality is that we are connected to each other, nature and God. To think we are separate from creation is self-destructive. It’s time to grow up spiritually, learn what Jesus really taught, not through the framework of catholic/calvinist authoritarianism which has destroyed the beauty of his teachings. Learn who you are. You are not these bodies, that is an illusion. The power of God runs everything. Quantam physics is teaching us that. Don’t call it pantheism, it isn’t that. Educate yourself, let go of man made doctrine/dogma, Jesus is beyond all that and that in itself is keeping you from knowing the truth. It’s time to grow past the middle school teenagerism of what you have been taught into fatherhood. There, you will see that we are all one, and love peace and serenity from manifest from you, instead of fear and control trips.

      • That is one large rock you just threw, my friend. Whenever I hear someone throw a rock that is a supposed Christian I go here:

        Proverbs 10:18
        He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.

        It’s ok to disagree, but when you slander someone, especially as heavily as you just did with namecalling and belittling, you my friend are the one that looks like a fool.

        “There, you will see that we are all one, and love peace and serenity from manifest from you, instead of fear and control trips”

        Oh really?

  22. sheep

  23. Thank you, not revelating for me, but very edifying- (i hope my extended family will read-it.

    For now is the beginning of sorrows-

  24. Thank you, not revelating for me, but very edifying- (i hope my extended family will read-it.

    For now is the beginning of sorrows-

  25. Thank you, not revelating for me, but very edifying- (i hope my extended family will read-it.

    For now is the beginning of sorrows-

    • YesI have always know this. The sons of God or fallen angels mingled with the seed of women. What I have learned lately is that the luciferians are planning the same today, with genetic engineering. Mixing the fallen angels with the seed of man. This is the same technology of old and the secerts have been kept from times of old in ancient knowledge of the old mystic relgions. I believe that before the flood mankind had gained this technolgy as now. Nothing new under the sun, man living 900 years, the lost civilivation of atlantis was the civilization of before the flood. This joining of man with demon was done before and there are plans to do it now,if not already done. The symbols of most secret orders are of these signs . It is the sign of “as above so below” This is the “key” DNA mixing with DNA of demons. The symbols of ancent times has the symbol of DNA , Jacobs ladder. If the Anti Christ comes to earth as a man well he will need to mix with a man. http://mikehoggard.com/

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